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Scaling and Sustaining Social and Organisational Innovation
Submitted by George Por on August 12, 2008 - 16:33.
Tim Merry wrote in email to some friends on July 25, 2008:
"I saw the tip of the iceberg in terms of some new thinking about Communities of Practice and how it relates to what is cooking in the Art of Hosting / Participatory Leadership field. I would love to explore that together, as it is a critical piece in our long term vision for Public Health in Nova Scotia. I know that George Por and Toke have already begin this conversation ...
One of the core question I carry is:
What are the forms that sustain action arising from collective meaning and purpose?
I feel we have much knowledge on how to build the containers for meaningful relationship, conversation and clarity and the edge for me is how for that to manifest into sutained action for the common good .....
Would folks be interested in connecting and exploring this further?
If so, I am happy to set up a couple of calls from now and going into the fall ..."
10 of us responded with yes and agred on the date of a conference call, Sept. 1. In preparation to that call, Phil, Ria, Tim, Toke, and myself had one on 1 August, with the purpose “to identify some constructs about scaling and sustainability that could be put on the table as raw material for a broader conversation with more folks drawn to these questions.” There’s a report that Ria and I put together, in which we’ve attempted to identify key patterns of meaning that emerged from that conversation, which may be useful to review before our next call. It is posted here:
This forum topic is for continuing and deepening that inquiry with your questions, reflections, and inspirations...
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Patterns and stories of large-scale change initiatives
On 3-Mar-09, at 17:19 , Tuesday wrote:
Hi friends,
Last week Toke, Monica, Scott, and I had a chance to talk about harvesting the story of the Our Optimal Health project. We realized that we were having a deeper conversation about harvesting the patterns and stories of large-scale change initiatives, and we thought it might be great to have a call with a larger group of us and begin to investigate this together.
Some questions we surfaced in the call:
* What is the harvest that can serve both chaordic and traditional ways of working?
* How may we harvest in such a way that others may be invited to contribute to the wise action or to the work we are trying to accomplish?
* How can we forge teams that can design, host, harvest, and tend to the "on-going"-ness of large scale change?
* How can the harvest invite others into the work as it evolves?
* What is the fractal harvest that moves us into wiser collective action for the common good?
Building consensus on the 'goods' of desagreement..!?!

Hi George, finally I found my way back to your question.
I can only speak from my limited personal experience. But maybe it can help to answer the question on a bigger scale.
At the end of our Flemish AoH-training I posted a question. It was our day of going back to the 'werkelijkheid' - (reality, but in flemish reality is the same as 'workability'). So I got a very practical one: "What kind of present shall I take to the marriage I will go to within 3 hours". Two people attended my quest, and there I experienced the 1+1+1=5 and the unique contribution of diverse people. I don't now if my co-creating partners 'co-sensed' the final result, but I am sure they co-sensed the emerging of a beautiful present out of the unique meeting.
So how to learn to believe in, honour, stimulate, work with diversity? And build a culture that rewards (active respect for) the differencies?
I give a try:
Create as much as possible experiences on the wonderfull possibilities of diversity. (For myself: explore them further!) Therefore invite people into spaces and structures for as much meaningfull conversations with tangible results as filosofical and organisational harvests. (Be focused!
Reflect on the process and honour the different contributions (not to keep them going on, but to point to the power of this kind of work).
And, of course: invite the senses .
Thanks!
Thanks for that fine reflection on my few scattered thoughts George. You have unpacked me fully.
Staying in the space of chaordic emergence...it is the key capacity and it is a very hard thing to do at times.
the O'Brien hypothesis
Miranda, thank you for your interest. The famos oft-quoted statement from Bill O'Brien, ex-CEO of Hanover Insurance, goes like this: "The success of an intervention depends on the interior condition of the intervener."
On the web, there are about 250 webpages referencing 7 variations of that hypothesis. Used wisely, it calls our attention to our attention to our blind spot regarding the source and quality of attention from which we operate.
Used unwisely, to cover deficiences in skillful means for large-scale social innovation (that includes birthing new systems, structures, and processes), it deflects attention from our blind spot.
Can you say more about O'Brien?
Fantastic exchange.
Sensing into the unconceivable
Dear Chris, what you wrote is hugely inspiring.
Letting it sink in deeply, I came to see what follows in this reply.
In your courage to sense into the unconceivable, and willingness to contemplate the “how do I hold THAT” question, I see the essence of your answer to it.
> George...I love that you hold the broadest of what is possible.
Thank you for seeing that; it makes me feel more connected with all those who are looking into what has just become possible, in these days of deepening global crises.
> I have no idea how to hold world-changing projects.
None of us has, alone. The scale and complexity of taking response-ability for intentional evolution is daunting. Isn’t it evolution’s way to tell us, “get wiser together by connecting your conversations”?
> I can't conceive of that scale at all, and I feel a little grief and anxiety sometimes when I sense the monumental scale of what you are asking.
Chris, I hear you and feel you. I feel the same anxiety when I realize what is the scope at which human groups must learn presencing their future. We know that the global crises need both local and global solutions.
A personally meaningful way, for me, to hold that tension is sensing the world as me. However, in the past, when I did that, I frequently felt stressed, overwhelmed, impatient, and out-of-balance.
Something has shifted in me in the very midst of a recent conversation with Helen and Jean-Sébastien. Suddenly, it became self-evident: it’s not that we have to hold world-changing projects, we just need to stay open to what the evolutionary urge us is asking from us.
5 years ago, Peter Merry and I recognized and named evolutionary leadership as a capacity to think, feel and act from the biggest whole that one can put his or her arms around, for the benefit of that whole and its parts.
The “putting the arms around the whole” suggests that we can engage the flow and dance with emergence, at any scale that we are ready for. The higher the scale, the more attention and intention is called for to the ways we connect our conversation and, eventually, coordinate our action.
> holding the small in concert with others, translocally, connected but focused, somehow THAT is the pattern that begins to answer your question.
Big thank you for sensing, identifying and describing it. It is indeed a pattern, a way of conscious engagement with the greatest whole. From the perspective of the O’Brien hypothesis about the “interior condition of the intervener,” I think the source of our attention is more important than the scale at which we feel comfortable to engage with reality. The deeper is the source of attention, the higher is where imagination can soar with it.
Will the local and translocal solutions scale up to match the complexity of our global crises? Let’s hope so and see into what conditions will make that enable. I am not so sure of that. It seems, those conditions will include the emergence of:
1. A global learning ecosystem where breakthrough practices worth replicating, as well as better methods and theories, can travel fast.
2. A new breed of transformation facilitators who support global initiatives and ready to welcome the leverage that their work can get from the right mix of social and electronic technologies.
> I am sure that for the rest of my life I will sit in this pulsation between uncertainty and hope, fear and confidence. And maybe, in the end, I will have stumbled on a path that had some merit after all, but I can tell you it won't have been with any planning or intention other than following my heart!
Your commitment to that makes me feel very good about the chance of evolutionary agents stepping up to their historical response-ability, by simply expanding their compassion to include the social systems at all scale and the not-yet-born generations.
Thank you dear friend for gift of your attention to “how do I hold THAT?”
May more of evolutionaries show up for holding that question with us.
May we find and connect soon with all those who are already doing it.
tags: complexity, connecting, crisis, evolution, evolutionary leadership, evolutionary urge, global, interior condition, learning ecosystem, local, presencing, response-ability, scale, translocal, wisdom
Wow...how do I hold THAT?
George...I love that you hold the broadest of what is possible. I have no idea how to hold world-changing projects. I can't conseive of that scale at all, and I feel a little grief and anxiety sometimes when I sense the monumental scale of what you are asking.
And...there are times I have this clear glimpse that holding the small in concert with others, translocally, connected but focused, somehow THAT is the pattern that begins to answer your question.
I am sure that for the rest of my life I will sit in this pulsation between uncertainty and hope, fear and confidence.
And maybe, in the end, I will have stumbled on a path that had some merit after all, but I can tell you it won't have been with any planning or intention other than following my heart!
enabling ideas to scale
Dear Rik, thank you so much for your heartfelt and insightful contribution to this conversation! Here are two quick pieces of reflection inspired by tours.
> taking to the next level this basic reaction of creating common sense: inviting to 'co-sense' the field of trust and experience that 'diverse ideas really contribute to the common"?
My guess is that the next level is more than diverse ideas really contributing to the common, and even more than "hosting conversations that matter. It is more like hosting world-changing projects and communities that make a difference, and enabling them to go to scale.
> invest a stable community-'consensus' on this and other points can help!
Can you say more about how you see the process of building that consensus?
Why is community important?
Rik...that is a gret question. In a recent presentation I did on community engagement I was outlining several things I thought were important about communities and then I turned it over to the participants and asked this very question. This was in the context of a meeting of Native community leaders here in Canada. Here is a popcorn harvest, from the transcript:
Wrap up the current thoughts. Did anything come up for anyone? What are some of the answers out there?
Answer: Sense of identity
Chris: A sense of identity is why it’s important to live in a community because then we know who we are.
Answer: Source of strength.
Chris: It’s a source of strength? How so? Communities provide a sense of support that makes it possible for individuals to do better than if they were on their own and that’s key to our culture.
Answer: Culture and tradition.
Chris: The culture and traditions are there, right. Land in the community and they are held there. There’s a reciprocal, there’s a gifting piece in here. You’ve got to give to live in it. Give to live – there’s a slogan.
All those teachings, that good way of life, it’s all there when we have the language, when we have a culture and we have the identity together.
The whole transcript is here:
Community matters? A little neuro-scientific track.
Rik Verschueren

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Here is maybe something very 'cool' on the question 'Why community is important' .
(short comment in steno, because I lost all I wrote in some false delete.., thanks I have to learn to be short!)
Neuro-science (on influencing for publicity-purposes!), recently located in the brain neuro-chemical 'well-feeling'-reactions when someone is adapting his ideas to the strongest/majority and punishment-feelings, when having a different opinion.
Hearing this I remembered my relief and well-being-feelings at the first AoH training when, for the first time to meet so many people who agreed sencerely on:
And I thought: "this indeed feels different than feeling 'self-punished' for my very persistent ideas on social change."
Life is of course more than this one neuro-chemical reaction, but
isn't AoH: "taking to the next level this basic reaction of creating common sense: inviting to 'co-sense' the field of trust and experience that 'diverse ideas really contribute to the common"?
It's not the only way, neither a purpose on its own, but to keep this process consistent and fueled (by good feelings) and to keep energised to spread out and invest a stable community-'consensus' on this and other points can help!
Curious on your experiences on this field.
Why community matters?
Immediately my spontaneous reaction is: Why does identity matter?
To me it is the same questions from the other flip-side. The answer to your question Chris is that we are social beings in essence, in nature. We can't help it. But our Western worldview has made us believe that somehow identity, 'the me' is more important than 'the we'. But I think they can't survive on their own.
In long ago times there was community, tribes, gangs which had hardly or no words for this 'I' (and there are still communities like that these days). In the mean time our Western world learned to separate things and study them in depth, and along the same line we developed a very strong sense of individuality. Now we go slowly back to the other side, - of community - but now with integrating this higher level of individual development. Which will result in a synergy, a new kind of community which didn't exist before.
In its deepest essence I think community is about belonging, and the other functions you mention Chris come on top of that. There is a book out these days from Peter Block, Community. The structure of Belonging. It talks a lot about what is implicit in our AoH community. I recommend to read it.
Community transforms
Chris, I love the way you are a living inquiry. It's so juicy.
I wouldn't presume to have an answer for you - but something came to me anyway, as I read your question. It's an answer that comes from my own experience:
Community is essential to the work that we do because the field that holds people who love and respect each other transforms us. It moves people from stuck places into movement. It thaws rigid and suffering worldviews, it cracks the armouring around beating, vulnerable hearts and opens us up to the reality that without community, we cannot survive.
So being in community actually brings us back into alignment with the reality of our true nature as evolutionary beings that are really like lumps in gravy. We cannot be separated out from the field of we-ness without losing all meaning. What use is a gravy lump without the gravy?
Erm... it doesn't look as poetic as it felt flowing through me, but that's gravy for you!
My questions
I am in a simple kind of first principles sort of question, and that is why is community essential to good work?
In a recent design conversation with a client\s community of practice we talked about the need for the face to face events to do three things: work with content, develop relationships and host co-learning. This is a wise set of principles for practice, but I'm still wanting to have a satisfying answer to the question of why community actually matters.
That is my inquiry at this point.
Harvesting this converation
Further inquiry - posting your questions
On September 1, 2008 some people joined for another conference call on this topic. We experimented with Webinar (and didn't have an audio report - so no transcript).
It was a juicy conversation and participants agreed to post the questions they have in this forum. Please join this conversation if this topic is part of your life and work too.