Living La Vida Evolutionary

I wonder if anyone will read this.  I keep coming to this site and I can never seem to find living conversational threads. . . and yet I keep hearing 'buzz' that this is a very active site. . . .

 I have been working hard to prepare for ES3 but for the past several days, I have not done much because I am finding myself feeling increasingly paralyzed.  I keep thinking of the old comedy routine 'what's on first and who's on second'. . . over and over, I think I hear agreements being made within the planning team and then over and over, the agreements are ignored.  Here I am spending some of my valuable life force trying to honor the agreements and make decisions on behalf of the whole within the context of those agreement . . . and then it starts to feel like I imagined all the work that took place to get to agreements that are subsequently ignored.  If a tree falls in the forest and no one hears it, does it make a sound?

 Color me uncertain and uneasy in these evolutionary times.

What is the implication when "there is only room for 60"

Thank you Lion - you write light into a consideration I haven't voiced so far.

I have had the question inside - but not attended to it so far - of what is the meaning and implications - what does it point to -  when what should be the leading edge of an evolutionary movement is engaging  the question of who to invite in to a limited space, that can hold no more than 60 people - in a situation where hundreds of people (participants in previous salons, and those who wanted to come, but couldn't be invited) seem to have a longing for being together.

To me it looks like that this one "dynamic" of "limited space for the next gathering" crystalizes the flow into inside-outside, organizational control, questioning decisionmaking processes,... and all of that good old movement organizing stuff.

Nothing wrong about that in it self - but it keeps this question alive somewhere inside: What does it point to that is not voiced - yet? (If anything.)

 

Well, speaking from my camp,

I've talked with a few people, post-Evo Salon, who are not posting here, (some of whom once did,) and I think I understand something of where we are coming from.

  • I think a lot of us were surprised and disappointed at the concept that we would not be meeting as a group again. I know for myself at least, I was invested in the idea that: This is a group I will be participating with again. Apparently not. It's hard to get worked up about organizing a conference that you're not going to go to, so that you can share a forum with a bunch of people that you don't know. "Bummer?" I don't think that begins to describe it.
  • One of the people I talk with, post-salon, just gets real quiet. The salon is not a topic for discussion. Something must have happened, and I'm not privy to it.
  • One of the people I talk with, post-salon, just takes a deep breath inhale, and then says, "Hmm.. Yeah... The Evolutionary Salon." There's a look of sadness on his face. He sighs in frustration.
  • Another one gets a bit roudy, and a bit testy. "They just don't get it." Agreed.
  • I suspect the vast majority of people just aren't participating online. They're not "net" people. I have no idea what they're thinking right now.

Now, I don't know what life is like amongst the organizers of the thing. I'm just out here in the boonies.

I'm talking about this at personal risk of reputation. I'm doing so because I don't hear anyone else speaking these things out loud. Not here, at least.

I don't dream of offending Michael Dowd or the Evolutionary Spirituality project as a whole. It's a wonderful project, it's the right time for the project, it's awesome, it's wonderful, it's right for my daughter.  (That, and "the dreams book," as she calls it.) The ideas I've learned here are fantastic, and have shaped me.

So, I risk offending Michael Dowd by speaking these things. That's my risk. I don't want to offend anybody.

I don't want to subtract energy. I want to add energy.

I think the way I can do that right now, though, is to speak truth as I see it.

I really want this thing to live. But I think it's breaking itself on the rock of reality right now, by trying to be something that it's not.

Dana wanted to do her California thing. I say: Let her do it.

I just want to have a simple Seattle gathering, and I already sense the tension around it.

I first heard on the phone, talking with someone: "Oh, you shouldn't do that. That's something sensitive. It might become a thing, an issue."

I thought, "Hm... But this is just a rumor. Perhaps not so."

I talked with another person. "Well,... there's only supposed to be certain types of salons. There's talk of fear of fragmenting."

Hmm... But still, this is just a rumor, is it not?

For some strange reason, nobody's talking about this openly. 

When people do speak openly here, it's always in flowery language. 

I finally decided to test it. 

"I want to host a gathering in Seattle."

It's too hard to know, given the response, but I think the rumor is right: Evolutionary gatherings are controlled, by a mysterious force that does not state itself clearly, and free and independent association are not goals.

A simple request to gather should draw enthusiasm, excitement, and encouragement, not cautious inquiry. 

I'm almost beginning to wonder: "Is the term Evolutionary Spirituality trademarked yet?" It would make sense.

Nobody wants to fragment anything. I, personally, just wish that there wasn't anything to fragment. 

...

This is just how I see things. I may just be living in a deluded fantasy world.

But, that shouldn't come as a surprise, should it? Because we're not exactly talking openly about these things. 

I continue to be lost in evonexus

I am really frustrated. . . I just can't figure out how to find stuff.

But maybe you can help me, Ria.  Can you change the dates for the Evolutionary Salon 3 over on the righthand side where Events are lsited?  The dates for ES3 are May 20 -24.   

I hear you

I hear your frustration. I don't know what is causing it or how to fix it. Not knowing what to do, I take a moment to send you energy. When the tree falls in the forest, the vibration moves through the air and the earth and all of life is touched.

I want to support you Tree!

I don't know how I can support you in this; but at least I let you know that I read it. I can feel the paralysing and the wonderment about what is happening. I hope you can talk it through with some or the whole hosting team of Salon 3!

Somewhere there is a meaning in this...

'slow down' and 'listening to the middle' can help sometimes.

With love,

Ria