Where is the Evolutionary Movement?

There's something that is struggling to come out of me. I've been trying so long, to figure out how to say it. So, it's time's up: It's going to have to tolerate a direct telling.

(1) We aren't the leaders of the Evolutionary Movement. (2) You are following in the footsteps of others. (3) The organization is atomized. (4) Some people want control. (5) The Internet diet. (6) Feel the Network. (7) What the Evolutionary Salon can do. (8) Conclusion.

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1. We aren't the leaders of the Evolutionary Movement.

This movement has been ages in the meaning. You didn't make it, none of us made it. I don't know even if anybody made it; It is just something that "the Times" have made.

I look through papers written long before we convened to meet, and I see the threads of it. They are there. I can even track them back, and see that they run even deeper.

There is an Evolutionary Movement right now because it is something that lives inside the world right now.

I'll be a little more specific: If we were all to die, tomorrow, midday, at once, the world would continue the movement. It would come slower- It would be delayed- I'm not saying that the future is pre-determined, and that we don't have influence over it- but I am saying, that these threads and these needs run so deep, and these truths that we are discovering are so core, that we can all be recreated from the energy in and on this planet right now.

2. You are following in the footsteps of others.

The Wikipedia, the collective intelligence of the bloggers, the Open Source movement, all these radical new ideas that are shaping our world right now, they all stem from openness and technology. The technology has made it possible to be open in ways that weren't possible, and to cooperate in ways that weren't possible.

There are techniques that the open source world uses to organize, that work. This is how things happen now. This is the standard for organizing. Any other way, and it's like someone who's used to Open Space being stuck in a lecture series.

It's very strange, about the Evolutionary Salon: The salon recognizes the value of the Open Space system. But then, externally, to the world at large, it presents itself as a closed system. It presents itself as yet another teacher & lecture tour circuit. We have experienced that, those of us in the Open Source world, which now includes most of the younger generation that is net savvy, and we have thoroughly rejected it.

If the Evolutionary Salon group is going to stay in step with the times, you will have to understand how this works. It is not what you're doing right now. It is not just having a website, and email, and things like that.

I take a step back, for a moment- I realize I have to actually explain how things work for us.

3.  The organization is atomized.

In the past, the 60's, the 70's, the 80's, things were different.

In order for people to work together, they needed to communicate together.

The only way they could practically do that, was get everyone to drive or bus to some location in town, and have a meeting. A few had the luxury of having telephone conferences. The best organizing happened where people lived together.

You had to be really dedicated, and you had to make those meetings. You had to have money, in order to support a meeting place. You had to have a mailing list distribution, a "Zine," a newspaper, something costly and expensive to put together and send out, in order to have an organization.

Realize this:

Whoever controlled the communication system, controlled the organization. 

Basically, the organization was the communication system. 

The communication system could be the mailing list, the organization could be the weekly meetings, whatever. But the org was the communication system.

This is very costly.

Discipline was the rule. 

The people who kept the mailing lists,  sent out the mail, convened the spaces, were some of the most critical people to the organization. If you've boxed those, you're good. Anyone who wants to take part in the system, (and these systems were hard to set up,) has to be on the lists, and partake in the channels.

This was, (from what I understand of the historical literature,) an intensely political field. There were intense struggles over what the organization says, what the organization says to do, etc., etc.,.

Because people would sign up to be peons, and the decision making process determined what they were going to do. This was power, and most agendas needed the power.

There were literal infiltrations and attacks, network on network, (from what I understand,) in the effort (frequently successful) to control other organizations.

Whoever controls the communication system, controls the organization.

The power struggle is alive. It is alive in the Evolutionary Salon. I saw it, you saw it, we all saw it. "What are we going to do? What's our plan? We need to conceed things, so that the group can go forward with a few points." If you didn't see it, maybe you are of a kinder nature than me, or something. Maybe I'm just really really confused. But I saw it, I saw the struggle.

Now. Let's go back.

Let's look at hackers.

Who controls the communication system?

Who, indeed?

The question is near rediculous to us. "Who controls the Internet?" Why, nobody controls the Internet. It's a series of peering agreements, from company to company to company.  (note: This is actually under attack, but, that's a separate issue. I'm not going to go into it right now. I don't think it'll actually be harmed.)

Anyone can start a mailing list. A person with mild technical skills can put together a collaborative web site.

Open Source systems allow people to copy the content out, and make their own variant. (This is evolutionary! Letting people copy and manipulate: This is evolution at work!) 

Nobody controls the communication system. Everything is set up, even intentionally so, such that anybody or any group can revolt and leave.

The communication system used to be the primary bargaining chip that the organization had. 

Look at ourselves. How do we operate? We are so concerned about the meeting space. Would we be so concerned if it were trivially easy to check out a space, anywhere, to gather?

Let's imagine that for a second. Imagine we have a website. You can go to it, click a few buttons, and there you are: You have a Whidbey.

Would the people who hold the conference have nearly as much power as they hold?

Of course not.

This is not to criticize the people who convened our gathering. I am merely demonstrating a point about communication systems and the shape of organizations.

The contribution of the space is, presently, a huge chip in the pile, and it shapes expectations and sense of obligation.

I have a prediction for you.

One day, you will have that programmatic access to a physical gathering space. One day, you'll click a few mouse buttons, and a space will be convened for your gathering. Some time in 10-20 years, you better believe it.

You might now know about it, since you might be stuck in some sort of Amish -like organization that doesn't know about the Internet and how people work on the Internet, but it'll be there.

We're already seeing the beginnings of it, in the geek world.

And these things flow out, from the geek world, to the larger world. I hope you've noticed this general principle of technology.

 Now, we ask ourselves: What happens when the communication system is "free?" Or "very very cheap?" When nobody owns the mailing list, and it's all just "hanging out there?"

The power dynamics become very different.

Imagine a traditional hierarchical organization. It is shaped like a tree

At the top, you have the most dedicated, the planners, the political winners, the positions of power, the hard workers, yadda yadda yadda.

You go down a bit, and you have all these little subtrees. A regional division here, a regional division there, etc., etc., etc.,.

The lines of communication are mainly controlled by the organization.

Now, let's look at the hacker / open-source circles. What does it look like?

Some times you see these enormous trees. (Wikipedia is something like an example, though it's very different, and far more democratic, than most trees. I predict it will fragment.)

But more commonly, you see hoards and hoard and hoards of these little itty bitty tiny trees. 

These are 4 person projects. "Action teams," you might call them, in org-speak.

Except, who's directing all the teams? 

Who indeed!

It turns out that the answer to that is very interesting: Only influence is directing the teams. By influence, I mean: Persuasive papers, the Times, political events, and so on, and so forth.

There are no orders. There are no "do this, or you're out of this organization!" The concept is preposterous.

There is no "global Free Software organization." 

None. You can't be kicked out. There is no organization to be kicked out of.

This, everybody, is the Evolution.

This, is, the future.

If you're going to do something, you're going to do it in a small team.

You can collaborate with other people. You can voluntarily participate in some larger network. But the ground rules are that the network is copyable. The only thing that's not copyable are the people. No coersion, no control, only influence.

Now, there are exceptions. But I need to exaggerate things, so you can get a sense of how we work, and why it works this way.

Nobody owns our communication systems. It is easy enough to copy them.

 "Pandemonium! Chaos! How can you get anything done?"

The way things get done, is by the network. 

And I'm not talking about the Internet, TCP/IP, or any of those things.

I am talking about the constant background fuzz of people moving in and out of spaces, leaving visible trackable trails behind them, everywhere they go.

The lack of privacy is our greatest strength.

I hope you have noticed something that happened when the forums were first set online: Outcry that they were closed. Perhaps not all of us are expert at articulating why we want it that way- about why that's important to us.

It is no accident, nor is it a strange fad fetish for transparency. No: It is necessary. It is for the Internet Concentration to work. It's so that the network of people that I talked about can see itself, and work together.

Suppose you want to do a project. You want to make "Foo"s. A "foo" is some object, some artifact, that'd be really valuable to whatever movement you belong to.

It could be a movie, it could be a book, a drawing, a diagram, a piece of software, whatever. "Foo."

So what you do is you go find the community where people talk about Foo type ideas. It makes sense that the community be public, right? And you go there, and you find all those people who are interested in your idea, "Foo." And you repeat this. You go all over the Internet, finding these people. And you all make a website together, to talk on, to collaborate over.

There's very rarely a lack of people interested in Foo, you have the entire world to work with. Imagine that the Evolutionary Salon, on Whidby island, had 1 million people in it. Okay: There are more than that online in the world, right now, as you are working.

Some percent of them would be happy to work on the project with you.

In fact, I would be surprised, in a great many (most?!) cases, if there were not already projects underway to do whatever it is you want to do.

The hacker community has learned, over and over and over again: Do not start projects! Join them, first. Only if you've looked on the net for a day or two, and haven't found anything, do you start a project.

The non-programmer groups who are class of 2003-2005 are learning this concept. People will be learning this concept for a while. It's all part of adjusting to the cybernetic economy that exists online.

The network of people makes this possible, the network of ideas. Ignore the actual cables sticking out of the backs of the computers, and the wireless connections for a moment. See the network of projects, the network of ideas.

You find a similar project, and you sniff around. Likelihood is, they've connected with related projects. Just follow the hyperlinks, sniffing your way "home."

Found a group that's sympathetic, working on the same sort of thing? Bam, you're set: You're a perfect match. Join their small action team. 

Well, that's how we put together operating systems and desktops and so on, at least, for the most part. You just find whatever team is doing what you think should be done, and you join it. Done.

Now, let's look at this in terms of the orgnization's tree. Let's look at that big tall tree that the large historic tree org had. What happened to it?

Did we just chop off the top? No, we didn't. (We didn't kill them, we didn't put their heads on pikes, nothing like that.)

What happened was: All the parts of the organization, became network services. 

 For example, there was a part that convened yearly gatherings. Now, it's a network service, open to whomever can find a way to make use of it. What does that mean in practical terms? It means that they hold gatherings, that everybody interested in the general field, is invited to attend.

The projects recognize that the gathering is held according to code, (that is, without agenda, without instruction, without obligation,) and then they get together, and they cross polinate, and the cross-inform, and they share what they're doing, and they share their services. And you know what? This is intensely effective.

What about the top of the org? What about the big movers and shakers, the big shots who call the shots? What about them? Are they gone? Did they not provide a useful service, by providing strategy?

The did indeed provide a useful service, by providing strategy. 

The networked version of this is that they provide theory, direction, consideration, leadership, ideas. They write papers, and influence people. But they do not control them.

The leaders exist only by assent, and the willingness of people to follow along with them. When people perceive the leader isn't so interesting any more, they just go off in another direction. The leaders power exists only as long as they are interesting. The network does not depend on them.

4. Some people want control.

Realize, that many people look to an organization, and see a lever.

They want to maximize the effectiveness of whatever it is they are doing. The way they can do it, is to control another organization at a critical point.

You infiltrate in the formation process, you figure out the rules to the game, you scratch the right backs, and now you've got an org, held together by various trusts and interests, and you can direct people's imaginations in the way you want. People are held together by the cohesion of the org, and you can basically give them your good ideas, which they will readily take in.

Recognize it!

Many people are scared. They see immanent environmental collapse. Or cultural collapse. Or whatever collapse. They ask themselves, "What can I do?!" Several come to the conclusion: "I can leverage an organization."

Be cautious.

On the Internet, we just atomized the orgs. Unconsciously; I doubt anybody made a conscious decision out of it. Just: The "market forces" of the Internet made it intuitively clear: "Just start your own damn project." 

Everyone realizes it, sooner or later.

The Internet is a very large Open Space.

It is Out of Control. And healthy that way. Doubters, let me just direct you to Wikipedia, and show you the various (intensely complicated!) operating systems that are constructed this way.

 http://www.kk.org/outofcontrol/

There was a general sentiment at the Evolutionary Salon: "If we don't do these projects, who will?! We gotta do something!" 

And in my head, I'm thinking: "Open your eyes, folk!" You're not the first people at this territory. You're not the second people at this territory. You're not ever the third, fourth, or fifth. You guys are way behind!

This is well traveled territory!

Who will do these projects, if not you? Why, the people who are already doing them!

Your eyes are shut, because you don't see well into Cyberspace. You have not trained your Internet vision. You don't know how to do the research, to see the network.

Part of this is because, many of the tools are not there yet, for the non-geek space. Or if it is there, I just haven't tracked it much, because I operate in the geek-space. But there's many more tools than I think most of you know about, or think about.

Again: Who will do these projects, if not you? Why, the people who are already doing them!

Why wouldn't you join them? Because you're an Evolutionary Salon person, and they're not? That's not right.

Participate in other groups' projects. Say: "My name is so-and-so, and I come from the Evolutionary Salon, where I report on our doings." 

There you are. The network in action.

This is called "emergence," this is called "collective intelligence," this is called "bottom up," and on the Internet, this is called "how it works."

5. The Internet Diet

If I were Zeus wielding lightning bolts, and could somehow force the Evolutionary Salon group to operate differently online, here is what I would do. 

This is a "training set" of rules, like training wheels, while learning online culture. 

  • Everything happens online, by rule. No phone calls. Everything is logged.
  • E-mail is forbidden. Instant Messaging as well- the only communication permissible is public web-based communication.
  • No private areas! No "member only" areas!

The goal of these rules are to make sure that everyone can see everything that everyone else is doing. E-mail is a back-channel, as is instant messaging.

Now, Internet groups in network culture use email, and they use IM, but they have practices to compensate, and they know how to use them responsibly. Sense this group doesn't quite "get it" yet, the training wheels apply.

  • Wiki practices follow the methods known by the younger crowd.
  • A wiki that does not split content from talk for these methods.

I've seen two wiki efforts here so far, and they're both doing poorly. They both treat the web as a pamphlet, rather than as a conversational space for the development of ideas.

Pamphlets on the web are fine, actually, but they are better made as static web pages, not editable. Which, ... ...we already have, elsewhere.

What we really need is a conversational space that uses the idea building power of wiki. This is where you get your intensity, and this is where you get your collective intelligence.

The method is soft technology. The wiki itself is just a hard technology. By itself, it's not getting you where you want to go.

I've started to think that the MediaWiki form affords "pamphlet creation." By dividing talk from page, it says, "Ah, here's this nice thing we're collaborating on for the public, and in private, we're going to do these particular things." The MediaWiki (which is the software behind the Wikipedia) is one of the only wiki engines that does this. I suspect that this is no accident; It is the only wiki made to host encyclopedic content.

So, I think I made a mistake in recommending the WikiCities. If we were to make a wiki again, intended for conversation and idea-building, then I would make it out of a different wiki engine. 

  • Everyone uses the Firefox web browser.
  • Personal blogs are kept on LiveJournal, or wherever. But not here.
  • Wikipedia is used for anything aspiring to be encyclopedic. (And there should be some Wikipedia work.)
  • Evo salon wiki for what is not encyclopic.

 "Why?"

If we are serious about the Evolutionary movement, then we should align ourselves with it. Yes, it already exists: It existed before we gathered.

We also need to get used to the "services" model.

Further, personal blogs in particular- they need to be our personal blogs.

Remember the network I was telling you about? Our moms dads brothers sisters daughters sons friends relatives are not going to follow our evolutionary salon blog. They are going to follow our personal blogs.

How do you reach these people? By communicating with them personally, not in your "Evo Salon" personal. 

Everyone here should have a personal blog. That's yours, not the Evolutionary Salon's. Your friends read it. We should have a page that aggregates  them all together, and presents them here, but they should be yours first.

Strangely, to the non network-accustomed mind, that will do far more for the Evolutionary Salon, then having them here! Because when people write about the Evolutionary Salon, their personal area of the network will see it, and learn about it, and know it.

Just watch Ashley: She posts to her personal blog, and then links to it from here. "See what I wrote on my blog," she says. (I'm paraphrasing.)

That's the way it works.

LJ will give you a blog for free. So will blogger. I'm sure there are various people, hosts, activists, (activists providing a service, I might add, without telling you what you must do with your blog, because they believe in the network,) what not, just handing out the blogs. They're cheap and easy.

6. Feel the network.

The reason I mention all these services, and, with my non-existant Zeus-like powers, everyone everyone use them, is so that you can understand and see and intuit and feel and breath how the network mindset works.

So that you realize: "Oh, I'm not sustained by the Evolutionary Salon. I am sustained... ...by the network."

Let me tell you: This network is huge. It contains contradiction, and yet it moves forward. This network is the Thing.

People talk about, "Oh, look what the network did." But it's not the computers. It's the people. They are hiding inside your CPU, you can imagine, but they are there. You see a monitor, but it's got millions of people behind it.

Further:

There is no persistant life beyond the network. 

Actually, today there is. But tomorrow, no: The network is growing, the network is becoming more and more powerful. The network is like a business method that is just taking off, and trumping all others. Given a choice, a sensible person chooses the more efficient way, over the less efficient way. That is the story here.

"I could join an organization that cuts itself off from people, won't cooperate with anyone else unless they go through some big long process, that won't accept me unless I go through whatever number of channels it sets for itself. Or, I can just plug into the network, and start working immediately." That's the choice.

The things that work outside the network basically just disappear. We call it the Large Organizations Delimma on CW. It's not exactly a secret.

7. What the Evolutionary Salon can do.

So, what could the evolutionary salon do?

If all this stuff I'm talking about were true, what would be the role of the Evolutionary Salon in the world?

Well, let's do this network style.

First, you separate the gathering process, from everything else.

So now, Evolutionary Salon gatherings are places that people go to talk about Evolutionary Salon things.

There is organization that the Evolutionary Salon is the backbone for.

That is, the Evolutionary Salon, as a group, does not engage in any particular action plan. It does not pull people together on an agenda. It does not deal with interests. There is no question of: "What are we doing."

If you're there, it's to either learn, or to teach. It's actually Open Space. Whether you're doing World Cafe, Open Space, or any of the other wonderful process arts soft technologies what have you, it's there so you can learn or teach.

It's there so that people can organize themselves. Someone learns about some project someone's working on, and realizes: "This is the project for me. These are the people I'm going to sit and learn with, and figure out action steps with. This is what I'm doing."

It is there so that people can, without trying to trick others into coming, say: "This is what my group is doing, I am here to report on it."

Do people need ideas? Hold a brainstorming session, and dissemenate the results. Do people need an overview of what's going on, and what people are doing? Hold a team that just asks people what they're doing, what groups they belong to, what their projects are, and how they relate to other people and groups and projects.

There is a name for this, we call it: Collective Intelligence.

The action is in the people and the small groups, not in the large organization. The large organization is an enabler, not a bottleneck, for the small teams. It is a service provider, not a constraint, not a "seal of authority," not any of those things.

If there is some project that the space organizers find particularly aggrevious, then it can be barred from coming. But the space is not used as a tool to buy influence: Attendence should be in sympathy in some way, but not controlled by attendence.

This is the network way. This is why there are dozens of Bar Camps formed in the last 6 months in the geek world. (Seattle's next will be a couple months away.)

So first, you separate the space gathering from the other stuff. 

Second, you play to your strengths. This is "the other stuff."

One of the primary strengths here is Evolutionary Spirituality.

There should have been more of it, at the Evolutionary Salon! There were too few sessions about evolutionary spirituality! There should have been more. There should have been teaching about what it is, why it is important, what the goal is, questions and answers, all that stuff.

Evolutionary spirituality is a core pillar, if not the core pillar, of this gathering.
 But there was more focus put on: "What are we going to be, as a collective group." Baaad. That's messed up.

Other strengths: Collective Intelligence. There were so many conversations I wanted to have.

I could easily see teams of collective intelligence activists chewing on the hard problems of collective intelligence, and constructing a theory and an explanation that melds nicely with the other threads. It'd be awesome. 

Other strengths: Paganism. Green organizing. The technical gathering.

We meet so rarely. This is a great opportunity.

So, you run all these programs, self-select, within the space.

And it's valuable. Or at least, it was very valuable for me: It changed my direection dramatically.

Maybe if you found it wasn't valuable: Were you teaching? Were you learning? Were you organizing? Because if you did those things, I would think you would have found it valuable.

But if you were seeking power, ... ...maybe you have your doubts.

Well, I've already covered that. That model doesn't work for me.

If you are lonely, if your project doesn't have much support, if it's something like that, then I encourage you: Understand the Internet. Get online, and find the people who already agree with you. Better yet, find the people who are already doing something.

There's this great essay: The Inner Ring. It's by CS Lewis. I highly recommend reading it. The conclusion is: If you set to work on stuff that you really believe in, and you just find your crowd, then everything will work out, and all the right people will gravitate to you. It will work. It should bring you encouragement.

8. Okay. I'm done.

I don't know what more I have to say.

All I can do is polish this up, make it clearer, decompose it into a hypertext on the wiki.

Perhaps I failed in explaining how things work on the Internet, here, but I can succeed again in the future elsewhere, if that's the case.

Anyways; I hope that this isn't blasphemous, or considered outrageous. It may well be the case that this makes no sense to you, and sounds like I'm proposing the End of the Evolutionary Salon. No, no, no, that's not the case at all. Just a "restructuring," and proposing some clarity to the structure.

This is what I can see, speaking authentically, from my point in the world. I know for a fact that there are other "under-30's" that see things this way as well. Most, I think, actually. Most just aren't saying what they think, perhaps because they think it's of no use to write about it here, in this way. Perhaps they're right. I don't know.

We're so used to "network" organizing, it's just like the air. I try, we try, to explain it to over-30's, and they just look at us like we're talking about idealistic ghosts. And yet, there is Linux. There is Wikipedia. There is the Free Software world. There is KDE, there is GNOME. There is the WTO protest, in Seattle. There is the substance. Look, people are making companies out of it, even. It's the market, applied to the gift culture. It's all there, ready for download. Free music, free art, free games; It's all there. It's not a fantasy.

This is the Evolutionary Movement you are reading about, in the newspapers. This is the decade. This is what's happening. It's all around us. We should participate.

 

Whoah whoah Whoah!

Whoah whoah whoah!

That whole "Zeus wielding lightening bolts forcing you all do to everything online" was a hyperbole

There is no Zeus, there are no lightening bolts, we're not talking about forcing you all to do everything online.

I'm just communicating that you all have very little experience and understanding about how things work out online.

Now: Recent Changes Camp was largely scheduled online. Phone calls played a crucial part as well, but it made good use of the online world. You all are not at that level yet. You all still have things to learn about online interaction.

RE: your suggestin "everything online" so all can see&know

Lion, there are people who are dyslexic, there are people who cannot type, there are people without hands or eyes. . . just to list the first thoughts I had as I read your suggestion that there be no more phone calls. There are people who do not know how to turn on the computer that they have owned for two years (one of my brothers) and there are, of course, people who do not own a computer.  A conscious social system, certainly a system that purports to represent collective intelilgence needs, I believe, to consciously embrace the simple reality that all human beings are not living their lives online.

Just as any one designing a learning experience has to create a learning experience that offers approaches that will address all the different learning styles that can show up in a class full of learners, I am pretty sure a conscious social system, any meaningful collective intelligence, is much more complex than 'everything has to be online' 

 It is not just people over-thirty who are not able to integrate online.

Please understand, Lion, that I agree with just about everything you have written here.  I read it, I think, as soon as you first posted it.  I've been letting it roll around inside me.  I was thrilled when you turned up at yesterday's phone call because I had read your suggestion that phone calls might not be needed.  

Also, I've tried to get in touch with you so I could talk to you about a couple of things related to planning ES3.  I sent you emails, you did not respond.  I posted queries somewhere here in evo nexus to get your attention.  If I got your attention, you did not get my attention if you responded because I have no idea where you responded.  I am a sharp cookie, Lion.  Not just a fast learner but a brilliant one.  But I bring the totality of who I am to every experience and, above and beyond my online communication fluency, I am never going to be able to do everything online as you suggest because I deeply believe it is wrong. . . so the evolutionary movement has to have multiple streams of access, to capture the attention, love, energy and support that people like me have to offer.

The internet and the many 'free' and 'open' avenues you mention Lion are wonderful. . . but there is much, much more.

Some of your suggestions overwhelm me and I find myself saying 'there's no reason for me to bother to get involved because there is no way, no way at all, that I am going to participation in the evolution wilthout phone calls or f2f"

And, on top of everything else that has me sitting here suppressing an impulse to flee, is this:  I am really only responding to one small paragraph in your brilliant essay but I have no idea how to identify what I am reacting to.  How can I pull out one paragraph, to let other readers know what I am addressing?  I have hesitated to post my thoughts because I am fretting that some will think I am condemning your whole piece, which I am not.  Your whole essay uplifted me, it gave me glimpses of wonderful possibilities, it left me with inklings of awe about future possibilities. . . only your pressure to do all planning communication online caused me to flutter anxiously. 

I used to wonder

I used to wonder when the emerging world would surge past me and leave me gasping for air. I think it's happened. I've been working with computers and organizations for over 30 years and for a lot of that time I felt like I was on the leading edge. Not any more.

Maybe what I've learned doesn't have to be an insurmountable obstacle to what I can learn next. With teachers like you coming forward I feel there is hope, but truly the task seems enormous. So many leads to follow just in the links in this one powerful thread! And my head is just spinning.

Lion, I hope you will expand on all this in your book.

In the meantime, I want to add to the recommended reading list Steven Weber's book The Success of Open Source, with which I started my education in this area last year.

But more important, let's get and keep this conversation going.

network activism emerging


This is a globaling emerging issue.

Thank you; And:

In turn, I must tell: I'm typing as fast as I can. So, I make slips, I mis-state, it comes out disorganized, etc., etc.,. A lot of the things I'm saying "could use some expanding and clarification," to mke an understatement. There are some blatant errors, that take a while more explanation to make clearer.

So, thank you, and please call me on it if I say something really aggrevious.

Re: wiki, I forget sometimes that I am in a very small collection of expert wiki users. (Excluding wikipedia, which is atypical.) I think John Abbe and myself are the only ones who have deeply imbibed wiki. So, it's not responsible for me to apply the "under-30's" label in that one; I have to be really careful about how I use that term. Call me on it, when I use it at the wrong time. 

Themepunks, another really good one:

Here's another really good one. It's written for my particular subculture within my particular generation, but I think it may be sensible to you, as well: Just work past whatever isn't attuned to your sensibilities, and focus on what he's saying about people, about networks of people, about how people collaborate and work together.

In the first 3 sections, pay attention to how KodaCell is being restructured. Also pay attention to how the shantytowns are restructuring themselves, and what not. There's a lot in these stories, way more than I'm just talking about here. Because the stories play to the imagination, they are capable of revealing the critical ideas.

You have to view a Salon ad to read it, but don't let that scare you away.
The story is called ThemePunks, and it's written by Cory Doctorow. He's highly respected, and he's a moral compass for the geek community.

Okay -

This is a process of mutual discovery. This is two people/groups speaking different languages, and struggling to communicate something. So, it takes time to figure out the language on each side.

Havoc Pennington wrote "Working on Free Software." It is succinct, and to the point. You will immediately recognize several of the things I was saying, in there. There is a book, "The Cathedral and the Bazaar." It has some of the seed ideas in there, I think. Another, "Homesteading the Noosphere," this is also an important one. "How to be a Hacker."

Why am I handing out all these references to Hacker manuals? Because those were the first to touch the online world, and figure out how things work there. It would be very surprising if it was, say, underwater divers who were the first to figure it out- because they're busy diving, not playing on computers. So the hacker culture knows these things, and the knowledge is distributing out from there.

Unfortunately, these books are both written in a context that is perhaps totally alien. Unless you know a bit about computers and programming.

Actually, I think much better, may be Out of Control. You can read the entire thing for free online. I think it it's likely much more approachable, (if a little less concrete, in terms of it's suggestions,) and it's firmly rooted in our sort of evolutionary language.

I intend to write, very soon, some imaginings about what things could conceivably be like, in our evolutionary society. I'm obviously not going to get it "right," but I intend to nudge the imagination in a particular direction, which I understand from the world I come from. I believe it will inspire a lot of ideas from you all; Far more ideas than I could possibly come up with myself, not even in dozens of years, left to myself.

Dear Lion, I was lying in

Dear Lion,

 I was lying in bed to go to sleep when I felt this unsettledness within me. I want to apologize to you for not clearly stating all of the areas in your long post that I agreed with. Your post is so full and my response focused more on areas that I felt a desire to expand on. There are many parts of what you offered here that I feel are SOOO important and I am thankful for the space you have opened for these types of dialogue, for addressing these types of concerns. I feel this is a very valuable contribution. 

I am usually pretty good about pointing out what draws me in and it wasn't until a friend who was reading this site wrote me about how much she resonanted with your perspective (especially about the open source ways of being and how closed the salons feel to her, as a member of the greater world) that I realized that my wording did sound like I was disagreeing (when in actuality both perspectives match my perception).

 with much respect,

Ashley 

OK :)

{:)}=

I'm in agreement with you

I'm in agreement with you here, Lion, on the topic of projects. My offering was definitely not an argument just an expansion upon what you were saying. To me it's not collaboration or growing from within, but growing from within and collaboration on what already is. We eagerly work because it has passionate meaning within and with projects that are already being done it is GREAT to play together.

speech/voice, and networking on projects

At work, and I don't have much time, but very quickly:

  • A mix of voice and text is fine. What is more important, is that work is done in public, and transparently. So I would go moderate on the voice (since we don't have speech-to-text,) emphasise the text, and, as a rule of thumb, avoid e-mail.
  • Projects: I don't understand the argument that we should not eagerly work together with other projects, and need some help in understanding it. We have integrity, we're here, after all, talking with one another. We hope to meet again at some point. I think we all like each other, and want to keep in contact, and to "keep doing this." But I think we miss a huge point if we're not consciously striving to cooperate with the project space of the world. If groups should "happen to" (I think it's very likely) from from inside ourselves, that is good and fine. But if we're working on some project, and there's already a mature project, or several mature projects, out there that are doing it, then why are we doing this thing separately? We should have some very good reasons, beyond just: "Well, they're not us." The evolutionary story is about the cells joining together to become an organism.

Sharing my perceptions

Hello you (whoever you are reading this),

In response to #1, I feel a calling together of evolutionary leaders... A calling to attract, a calling to weave relational bonds between these scattered forces, these intricate threads whose needs run so deep. As you say, Lion, these truths that we are discovering are so core and we are responding to the need to be connected, sharing in this time. From my perspective, it is this energy that we wish to call into being (together), to ignite into coherent chords, living expressions of being and doing. Evolutionary Salons are one (of many) ways of doing this.


Lion:
"The salon recognizes the value of the Open Space system. But then, externally, to the world at large, it presents itself as a closed system. It presents itself as yet another teacher & lecture tour circuit."

I will say for myself that I am investing a lot of energetic effort and attention towards creating an online space and face to face space that is open and transparent and invites forth collaboration, co-creation, and authentic presence. From my experience, some of the energy and attention that has gone into what the world at large sees is stuck in some of the old patterns of a closed system. The world at large sees this website. The world at large feels means and ways of communicating. Some of this is done with great skill and in other places, I think that there is unconsciousness in the ways in which we engage and/or a lack of awareness that we are in fact still operating from 'old' habits. And of course this would be the case, we are healing. From my experience in the process of healing there is always a time curve of unfolding and giving attention to the weak links, to the holes in the system, and all the other processes of expanding awareness. We must integrate awareness of where we are not fully functioning and where we are showing up in our wisdom so that we may accentuate the holy wholes, giving them life, energy, and attention.

I also don't feel that the world at large is feeling a sense of closed space. I recently received a letter written to the hosting team of ES3 from Stephan Martineau in regards to his interest in being present at ES3. He said:
I recently heard from Ashley about the two last evolutionary salons that were held, and this third one that will take place in May. What a wonderful configuration of people around some of the most inspiring and important topics and questions to be explored on earth at this time! I am aware of how limited the space is for this next salon, but feel compelled to see if it is possible for me to participate. The subject matter and inquiry of these evolutionary salons lie at the very center of my work and passion.

Discovering and then exploring the emergence and use of collective intelligence has been my most deeply felt interest and calling since 1991, when a profound spiritual experience revealed to me that coming together authentically and listening to/expressing what arises in such a collective is a core element of the next step in consciousness evolution.

...

I am keenly interested in networking and inquiring with other thinkers and players in the field of ecology, sustainability,and consciousness evolution. Above all, I am deeply moved by a persistent call to come together with others to discover what next steps we need to take as a human family. I see this as having direct practical consequences on our very ability to participate in consciousness evolution upon this precious and incredible Earth embedded in Kosmos.
This is an example for me of what you say, Lion, that the movement is already going on...AND that there is a deep call to come together that is echoing through the universe.

Lion: "The power struggle is alive. It is alive in the Evolutionary Salon." I too saw this and continue to see it and feel it lessening. Again we are healing. I hear your call and intepret it for myself as an invitation to speak to this struggle (dynamic tension) when I see it present. I am reminded of a learning that is currently unfolding for me in my work with the salons, a commitment to make the invisible visible. (it sure takes a leap of courage for me to respond to this commitment and I'm falling short over and over... a lot of practicing needed!)

Lion: "It's so that the network of people can see itself, and work together." This has been a HUGE issue for me in that in the work we are doing with Evolutionary Salons, there is not a coherent place where we see ourself working together. I feel the desire for Evo Nexus to be that sort of space and yet experientially for me, it is not. This is where expanding the collective hosting of this field becomes so important to me in order for the mission of this site to truly be a reality.

"The hacker community has learned, over and over and over again:
Do not start projects! Join them, first. Only if you've looked on the net for a day or two, and haven't found anything, do you start a project." This is interesting to me. One part of me completely resonates with the need to not reinvent the wheel, to find the wisdom that is already present and to build on it. And another very essential and alive part of my being is very dedicated to the integrity of something that grows organically, that grows from within. Essential elements of being are attracted to one another, they come together and become one with each other (a collective is formed), other ness dissolves, and there is an active being and becoming. An integrity of authenticity and aliveness is completely embedded in the structure (I tend to refer to this as spiritual grounding). And it is also imperative that the wisdom that has come before is integrated into the unfolding.

There was a general sentiment at the Evolutionary Salon: "If we don't do these projects, who will?! We gotta
do something!"
The way that I interpreted that sentiment (what had meaning for me) was: "We have an opportunity to be together in evolutionary ways... emerging as a collective consciously birthing itself for the greatest good." This potential combined with my own imagination's sense of possibilities evoked an excitement to 'do something' and for me, that doing is to encourage a way of being in which the doing arises from within, from the being.

Everything happens online, by rule. No phone calls. Everything is logged. How about a way of integration where voice, face to face, and online are woven together. Everything being reported to the online field is wonderful AND I by no means want to give up the important value of voice resonance and eye contact.

Wiki practices follow the methods known by the younger crowd. And I am a part of a younger crowd that values the use of forums for conversational dialogue and a different rhythm of flow. Do you see space for both?

I also firmly agree that a major part of the site should serve as an aggregate that presents 'all things evolutionary' but not that it all has to be stored and written directly to the EvoNexus site. This very much excludes the work of other initiatives that are putting their energy and attention into maintaining their own online expressions (and yet might be thrilled to link into a larger, umbrella network).

As for individual blogs, if people choose to have a blogger site, I would be willing (as time is available) to help share what I have learned regarding making it beautiful (as I did in a back channel email to Dana).

I resonate with thise quote:
"It's there so that people can organize themselves. Someone learns about some project someone's working on, and realizes: "This is the project for me. These are the people I'm going to sit and learn with, and figure out action steps with. This is what I'm doing.""

"perhaps because they think it's of no use to write about it here," I have also found myself not sharing views here because it doesn't seem like the best use of my energy and attention. There isn't a widespread public that I am aware of and the interface in uninviting. Even right now I am writing in blogger (so that I can format it the way I want and there is not all of the chaos on the sides) and when I am done I will post it over there... because I feel called to be in this conversation (more so than this site).

Ria wrote:
"Very new for me: I feel kind of dependant on you guys/girls/kids and I do hope you take the effort to connect with me/us. It even feels sad because I sense that I miss something that I was longing for for a long time."
And I thank YOU, Ria, immensely for the ways in which you are listening and responding at least to me personally as I try to reach out and connect around where I feel value and life.

Finn wrote: "
maybe we can even narrow the perspective (in this community) to an evolutionary perspective on collective intelligence and spirituality - and it would still convene the same people.Step forward - invite - include - commune - learn - teach - grow...."
That sounds fun!

end of my expression... thanks for this opportunity to share.

warmly,
ashley

I want to connect more with the under-30!

Lion, thanks very much for your big effort to write this and trying to explain all this to us, old folks! 

I can feel and sense that all what you are writing about is very valuable! It is shifting my foundations of who I am and how I operate in the world and it put into question all what Ii wrote just yesterday! I was searching for these things, as I was reading last year the Hacker Ethic and Finite and Infinite Games and so on. But I'm still struggling about how to apply this in my life and in all the things I'm passionate about, like 'making the ENexus site work' ... but maybe that is too organising already? I just don't know...

You wrote (about the under-30):

"Most just aren't saying what they think, perhaps because they think it's of no use to write about it here, in this way. Perhaps they're right. I don't know."

I really ask - all of you - to share with me, with us... I want to understand, feel it in my bones,  want it to be an integral part of my life... please do, I/we have only you to teach it to us!

Very new for me: I feel kind of dependant on you guys/girls/kids and I do hope you take the effort to connect with me/us. It even feels sad because I sense that I miss something that I was longing for for a long time.

Thanks!

Ria 

 

Highligthing what resonates with me

"We aren't the leaders of the Evolutionary Movement."

yes. because evolution does not need "a movement" - so there is nothing to lead. Evolution needs whoever chooses to step forward in full human capacity to move the ever moving boundary between life and not-yet-life. It is important if you choose to do it. It is not important if you don't - it will move anyway.

 The fact that at this time the evolutionary process can be seen to become selfaware changes the role we as humans with capacity for selfawareness can have. I think we are still in the very early stages of understanding what that means.

There can be(there is!) a sense of community, and community-like events for people who feel connected in this perspective - and call that a movement if you want - but it is not the movement that moves.

 

"So, what could the evolutionary salon do? First, you separate the gathering process, from everything else. So now, Evolutionary Salon gatherings are places that people go to talk about Evolutionary Salon things. That is, the Evolutionary Salon, as a group, does not engage in any particular action plan. It does not pull people together on an agenda. It does not deal with interests. There is no question of: "What are we doing.""

 yes. get together because you want to and because you know that it is one of the most valuable things you can do in your life - getting together. There need to be no worries or questions regarding outcomes etc. when we know about ourselves and each other that we gather under the perspective of evolution. And maybe we can even narrow the perspective (in this community) to an evolutionary perspective on collective intelligence and spirituality - and it would still convene the same people.

Step forward - invite - include - commune - learn - teach - grow....

 

Lion - reading your posting released something in me - a sadness or a tension. Not to say that  I have now spoken to all   there is in it, but something eases up for me. Thank you.

 

Finn